Talk:Cloudverse/@comment-43473168-20191108220353/@comment-36856644-20191118094227

the absoverse is an epsilon 0 long nestation of universes within universes

the cloudverse is an epsilon 1 long nestation of universes within universes

which may not seem like that much of a difference, but in the real world, that would be mind-bogglingly larger

the size difference between a verse and its containing body can sometimes be as large as a limit-club-berkley ordinal, or even way larger, there is practically no limit.

now make a fixed point of this, that would be an eusi of ω. now submerge every verse in this chain in another fixed point and you get ω^2. do that again and you get ω^3. ω^4, ω^5, make a fixed point of fixing points onto fixed points and you get ω^ω. absolutely nowhere near epsilon 0.

and exponents work exponentially, thus, the jump from ω^^4 to ω^^5 is so, so, so much larger than, say, ω^^3 to ω^^4.

now, imagine going from ω^^ω, to ω^^ω^^ω^^ω^^ω^^ω^^ω^^ ... is a ω^^^ω.